My review is of their BEER not their establishment...

My review is of their BEER not their establishment (I've only been there once). I used to really enjoy Founders, but either my tastes have changed or their process have changed...or a bit of both, but I cannot stomach their beer anymore.

Outside the Porter (which I still think is excellent), the rest of their beers give me pounding headaches, their new release CBS gave me not only a massive headache, but horrible gut rot. A few of their beers stand out, but in today's market I think you can go to just about any mid sized city and find similar quality micro-brews. They just dont stand out anymore.

Drinking beer should be an enjoyable experience, but more and more with founders it's become an exercise in masochism.

I think the better GR brewery by miles is Vivant, and otherwise I'll stick to my local Wisconsin craft brews which don't seem to give me the same experience.