The good: Sales manager and salesman were friendly...
The good: Sales manager and salesman were friendly. Very accommodating with test drives - three of them. While several typical sales comments were made, there was no extreme sales pressure.
The bad: While we'd not planned on buying that day, they happened to have a vehicle configured exactly as we wanted. When we decided to sit down and negotiate, all the old, tiring and cheap tricks came out. It started with massive collection of personal data, before even discussing price - which should have been the first warning sign. But then, the dreaded four square made an appearance on the salesman's desk. If you're not familiar with this technique, Google it. And, when presented with it - just get up and walk out, as you're NOT going to get a deal. It's purposely designed to frustrate and confuse you, and is a clear sign the dealer is not negotiating in good faith.
I'd done a lot of research on pricing, and knew what the vehicle sold for elsewhere. Our initial offer was equal to the best price I'd seen negotiated in the last month, so it was admittedly at the lower end. We'd have come up a bit given the vehicle was on the lot and exactly what we wanted.
Instead, we were told our offer was below cost (wrong), that the vehicle was in short supply (wrong again, close to a hundred of them within 150 miles), and when it became clear we wouldn't partake in the four square nonsense - we were offered $500 off MSRP. An absolute joke of an offer for this particular vehicle, and a waste of all of our time.
We've since factory ordered the vehicle from another dealer, for thousands less with minimal negotiation. And, no four square.
Great place to see inventory and test drive, but when it's show time - don't count on a deal, and expect the same old car sales tricks.