This is hard as we very much like their wines and ...

This is hard as we very much like their wines and knew the founder. They have just grown to be more of a large scale winery (now serving #356 style) and lost some of the charm we loved. Their severs are still good and do a solid job guiding yoiu through their wines, but with outside accommodation you feel like you are sitting in a open gravel field with no character. It's expensive and just not special as it used to be. Far Niente could be better.